I guess last time i didnt post a 'proper introduction' so i hope ill do it right this time. Also why did i get downgraded to LURKER?
I first found FreeKeene in September 2009. At that time i was brainwashed by the gubmint just like everybody else. WHat attracted me to it was the part about smoking blunts. So i realized gubmint authority was bad and became a libertarian. Alot of people looked at me funny and said i was a bad person for saying things like 'all drugs should be legal' and 'smash underage drinking laws' I got snitched on for bringing alcohol to to school. (Now graduated for two years or so.) I HATED high school, and school rules and thought they were stupid. I always wanted to organize a schoolwide rebellion, but could get the support. It wasnst till January 2011 that i became a social (red) anarchist because i saw how much capitalism hurt people like me. And also how the power of the 'state' was based in capitalism. Also capitalism was the reason drug laws and police existed. I decided that smashing capitalism was the only answer to freedom. Im still here to try to convince people that property is slavery, ownership is slavery, and employment is slavery.
Also i was in Keene last October, (while i was still a libertarian) and i think i met several Free Keene people. it was on a Sunday, and i was hoping to make it to central square for 4:20.
Id be happy to move to Keene if their is any fire and ems opportunities available. because those jobs arnet considered 'employment' to me because nobodys making a profit off of your work. Id rather not be a 'slave employee' working for a private business though.
One thing i forgot to say-i know anarcho-capitalists think police, fire, and ems, dpw, etc. are bad people because they are supported by 'stolen' money- but i think the people that steal your labor- employers- are far worse.
That does it. I'm dropping all qualifiers, especially that nasty A-word. From this time forth I will simply call myself a Capitalist, and my philosophy Capitalism.
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One thing i forgot to say-i know anarcho-capitalists think police, fire, and ems, dpw, etc. are bad people because they are supported by 'stolen' money- but i think the people that steal your labor- employers- are far worse.
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Can people at least hate on the private EMS and Firefighters in NH? BTW, there is a private EMS company in Keene. Maybe you should apply there.
Blahh blahh blahh blahh… It wasnst till January 2011 that i became a social (red) anarchist because i saw how much capitalism hurt people like me.
Why, afraid to work ? To dumb to start your own enterprise?
Im still here to try to convince people that property is slavery, ownership is slavery, and employment is slavery.
Well, good luck with that one.
Blahh blahhh blahhh
Id rather not be a 'slave employee' working for a private business though.
Right outta' the Idiot's Guide to Communism.
Asshole.
Much better intro - thanks!
What's capitalism?
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I seem to recall taking the time to have a whole forum thread on this very question.
It used to be at http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=30732
If it is not there anymore, well, we all know why…
If i was the chief (not manager, owner, or boss) of a private fire/ems department, could i use WEED to treat people in pain? Ive been thinking about this for a while and even designed my own system called compressed weedsmoke. You get this huge bong, light it, and have a compressor hooked up so you can fill an air bottle (SCBA) with the smoke. Then you always keep the bottle on the truck, and then when you need it, you put a mask over the persons face and let them breath in all that smoke. They should be high within a few minutes, and their pain should be gone. Does that sound like a good idea? I should start making compressed smoke things and selling them
Your beliefs are so far removed from what Free Keene is about that I just don't think you belong here. And by "here", I mean Free Keene, including this forum; not Keene itself. You should move to Keene if you want, but I don't think you should get involved with Free Keene and I think Free Keene should not particularly welcome you or encourage you to get involved. I just don't see you as an ally for what we are working toward.
I know people will talk about big tents and about how we need to have an open dialog if we hope to reach people and all that. I get that, but there's a time and place for it. There is the notion of realizing whether you're allocating resources effectively and how much effort is being spent for the return on investment. Your views are so far off the map of Free Keene that it practically qualifies as off-topic, like coming in here and making posts about fishing or backgammon. I'm a fan of modes of communication that reach lots of people like Free Talk Live and other podcasts. If you argue with a statist there, you probably aren't going to change their mind, but lots of others will hear it and many of them are not so diametrically opposed to the message that they can be somewhat receptive. The effort isn't wasted.
Meanwhile, arguing with trolls on a message forum seems to have the opposite effect. Whether they're actually trying to be trolls or are just incidentally trollish (insulting, consistently antagonistic, various things that get a "rise" out of people, etc.), they're a huge resource sink and a drain on the energy of a forum. Where listening to a five minute rant on a show can be entertaining, it makes a forum boring. Forums take a greater investment of time to sift through what you're interested in or not. I've seen arguments grow for pages just to lead into a new thread of arguing. One of the most consistently active message boards I've seen seems able to achieve that based on a fairly heavy-handed moderation atmosphere with lots of volunteer moderators who make an effort to regularly refine their policies of what sort of speech is tolerated or not. If it were up to me, I'd ask you politely to leave and if you didn't, I'd just ban you. Fortunately for you, and unfortunately for the forum (IMHO), it ain't.
I'm putting you on ignore now and encouraging others to do so as well. They probably won't. I fear that Free Keene will follow the path of most largely unmoderated forums out there–just blend in with all the other forums where anything and everything is talked about and get lost in the information overload until people just glance at the subject list and immediately get discouraged and click away as once regular participants spend less and less time here.
Perfect example of tragedy of the commons. Someone needs to own it, clean it, and care about the atmosphere, for it to be worth a crap.
NB4 Ian thinks I'm criticizing how he runs things. I'm not. There is a lot of pressure from folks that want to cry "Free Speech!" and what-not so it's not really fair. There's fear of blowback from banning someone in what seems like an arbitrary way and therefore understandable reluctance. I'm just expressing some thoughts I've had about message forums and provide some constructive feedback in a more general sense. I know what turns me off to a board and I just can't help but think it turns a lot of other people off too. I guess I'm trying to throw my support behind property rights when it comes to an Internet forum and saying that yes, it's arbitrary, and so what? It's a private space that serves a certain purpose and if something is interfering with that purpose, then it's more than okay to do something about it.
In other words, ban trolls (and SC isn't the only one).
I might be a troll, but i rally believe what im saying. And you have to admit EMS compressed Weedsmoke is a good idea, isnt it?
Dear Dalebert and Smash:
Dalebert, you and I have agreed in much in our various back-and-forths, so I was surprised to see such a strong reaction against Smash. I have to say, I like a lot of what Smash says.
I think one of the biggest 'blind spots' among libertarians has been the sole focus of The State as Oppressor, to the exclusion of the existence of other oppressors. Smash represents the historic, honorable Left-Libertarian position that grew out of the French revolution; libertarians in those days tended to side with, and sit with, the socialists in the French National Assembly.
Smash, I am going to tweak something you wrote: the oppression you see comes not 'intrinsically' from property, but from imbalances in negotiating positions in market transactions. Most Market Libertarians believe strongly in markets, but fail to see that markets only work according to free-market theory when the Buyer and Seller are negotiating from equal positions.
What you, Smash, see, is what happend when Market Power is concentrated in the hands of the few: The Three Slaveries of Tenancy, Chattel, and Indenture.One can still believe in Markets (using the language of the Right), but oppose Monopoly/Oligopoly power that oppresses (languag of the Left). The beauty of the Occupy Wall Street Movement is that many people are seeing the Common Ground between these two positions.
I think a lot of people come to the idea of liberty through one particular way. They live their "normal" lives, paying taxes, working for government, getting handouts, not even thinking about their money going towards the wars against others. SMASH and I seem to have a lot in common. He seems to have gone down the same paths as myself and so many others I've talked to. …
Regular life > introduced to libertarianism, like some of the ideas > backlash against the more anarchist ideas thus turning back on the entire libertarian idea > seeing rich people, serving them, watching them live the high(er) life. Grouping them all together, from the hard working joe who makes a bunch of money on his talents and sweat and the golf playing CEO types, who do barely anything and are smart enough to be able to figure out the government monopoly privledges. > finally being able to separate out those that work as hard as I do (the ones to respect) and those who haven't earned their fortunes (non-respected). > finding the ideas of communist/socialist appealing because of the wonton destruction of those evil rich. > seeing someone who is evil and rich giving jobs, giving back, and showing how it's supposed to work in a free society. >
and hopefully SMASH will come back around, as I did, and more principled as he can be.
>finding the ideas of liberty through the NAP, and choosing a more peaceful, live and let live sort of lifestyle.
I have met far too many former communists in this movement to think that anyone is beyond the ideas of true liberty.
SMASH posts is back on top of the list again, see i figured out by replying to my own post i could keep my posts on top and keep getting more comments. Anyway, OCCUPY WALL STREET actually is showing how its possible to live without money (currency) or authority. Im putting updated plans for an anarkistic villiage (or city) on my website capitalismsmash.blogspot.com in a few weeks. I really think this idea could work
You know, after years of contracting myself with Employers who stole my time, I realized I rather liked the setup; they gave me money ! I mean, I know it's criminal what they did, stealing my time and forcing me to work for them, but looking back, I did have a pretty good time with all that money. I got a house, and several cars, and food, and clothes, and I had several children, and supported them, and sent them off to college, and now I am retired and getting over all that awful trauma of having my time stolen by employers by painting, relaxing, taking trips, etc.
Maybe I just have PTSD from all those years of working, I don't know, but it seems to be getting better now that I am lying in a hammock in the Bahamas drinking a Pina' Colada. 
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I don't understand how anyone feels like they can be a communist/socialist and an anarchist at the same time. It shows a basic lack of understanding of political philosophy. Collectivism is inherently statist. I'm sure next week you will have converted to some other ideology.
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I don't understand how anyone feels like they can be a communist/socialist and an anarchist at the same time. It shows a basic lack of understanding of political philosophy. Collectivism is inherently statist. I'm sure next week you will have converted to some other ideology.
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In my most intense philosophical discussions with fellow students of the arts, philosophy and drama, back in the day, back at the University, we finally came up with a term that applied to persons who have the apparent moral ambivalence and muddled confusion of this person calling him/herself Smash Capitalism. We called them "Fucking Morons".
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I don't understand how anyone feels like they can be a communist/socialist and an anarchist at the same time. It shows a basic lack of understanding of political philosophy. Collectivism is inherently statist. I'm sure next week you will have converted to some other ideology.
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Im still an anarchist and its been more than six months since then