Nyc agorist

Hi everyone!

I've been lurking for some time, around not just this forum but the entire fsp.  I did finally sign the fsp commitment early this year to move by 2011, and Keene is definitely the town I'd most like to invade, but I still harbor a sort of Howard Roark's love of Manhattan, a la:

[quote]"Is it beauty and genius they want to see? Do they seek a sense of the sublime? Let them come to New York, stand on the shore of the Hudson, look and kneel. When I see the city from my window–no, I don't feel how small I am–but I feel that if a war came to threaten this, I would like to throw myself into space, over the city, and protect these buildings with my body."[/quote]

(It's been far too long since I last read that book… like 3 years lol)

I'm a whole-hearted agorist, and I know there's a ton of potential for the world's greatest city to become its counter-economic capital.  So I wonder whether it'll make more sense for me to end up as a link between the shire and the city, and I hope that over the next year or so I'll come closer to deciding, and I'm confident that my contact with all you fine people will only help.

That's a good one.  Here's another: the beginning of Moby Dick:

[quote][size=10pt]There now is your insular city of the Manhattoes, belted round by wharves as Indian isles by coral reefs–commerce surrounds it with her surf.  right and left, the streets take you waterward. Its extreme down-town is the battery, where that noble mole is washed by waves, and cooled by breezes, which a few hours previous were out of sight of land. Look at the crowds of water-gazers there. Circumambulate the city of a dreamy Sabbath afternoon. Go from Corlears Hook to Coenties Slip, and from thence, by Whitehall northward. What do you see?–Posted like silent sentinels all around the town, stand thousands upon thousands of mortal men fixed in ocean reveries. Some leaning against the spiles; some seated upon the pier-heads; some looking over the bulwarks glasses! of ships from China; some high aloft in the rigging, as if striving to get a still better seaward peep. But these are all landsmen; of week days pent up in lath and plaster–tied to counters, nailed to benches, clinched to desks. How then is this? Are the green fields gone? What do they here? But look! here come more crowds, pacing straight for the water, and seemingly bound for a dive. Strange! Nothing will content them but the extremest limit of the land; loitering under the shady lee of yonder warehouses will not suffice. No. They must get just as nigh the water as they possibly can without falling in. And there they stand–miles of them–leagues. Inlanders all, they come from lanes and alleys, streets and avenues, --north, east, south, and west. Yet here they all unite. [/size][/quote]

Thompson, welcome aboard!  Keene is definitely the place for you…take it from an ex-New Yorker (who can make it from Keene to the West Side Highway in 3 hrs 40 minutes…and does so once a month :-))

As an Economist, I am fond of telling my students that "Markets are always more powerful than laws."  As a native Big Apple guy, I know that NYC is the biggest market in the world - - for everything and anything, at all times, andin all places :-)  My great grand-dad ran 3 speakeasies during prohibition…I have a proud family history  ;D

Welcome - come on up!

Welcome, Thompson! Love the avatar. I bet you know where a fellow could get a memorable hamburger and a great smoke.

NYC is at once a monument to Randian heroism, and testimony to what she did not see: that entanglement with government is in no one's rational self interest.

Many have said that NYC is beyond hope of redemption because of just how deeply the Legion of Doom has gotten it's grubby claws into each and every aspect of life and subsequent transaction in that town. I think that because of the very unsustainable nature of big government, it is the most likely to make the biggest thud, once the monster topples and falls. 

The days of the state are numbered and are slipping away from them fast. Peaceful trade and freedom will have it's time in these lands.

[quote author=Thompson link=topic=4025.msg44979#msg44979 date=1285275804][quote]"Is it beauty and genius they want to see? Do they seek a sense of the sublime? Let them come to New York, stand on the shore of the Hudson, look and kneel. When I see the city from my window–no, I don't feel how small I am–but I feel that if a war came to threaten this, I would like to throw myself into space, over the city, and protect these buildings with my body."[/quote][/quote]

Some of us ain't much inclined towards the whole "kneeling" thing…

Joe

I recognize that Avatar.

Whats up buddy?

[quote author=Sovereign Curtis link=topic=4025.msg45027#msg45027 date=1285305521]
I recognize that Avatar.

Whats up buddy?
[/quote]

Oh nothin much, just gonna start pressuring (and teaching) everyone to start encrypting their damn internet traffic lol

[sse]how exactly is this sentence hidden from "suspicious visitors," for example…?[/sse]


[quote author=Dan Steward link=topic=4025.msg44997#msg44997 date=1285288114]
I think that because of the very unsustainable nature of big government, it is the most likely to make the biggest thud, once the monster topples and falls. 

The days of the state are numbered and are slipping away from them fast. Peaceful trade and freedom will have it's time in these lands. [/quote]

[quote author=KBCraig link=topic=4025.msg44993#msg44993 date=1285285398]
Welcome, Thompson! Love the avatar. I bet you know where a fellow could get a memorable hamburger and a great smoke.

NYC is at once a monument to Randian heroism, and testimony to what she did not see: that entanglement with government is in no one's rational self interest.
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PRECISELY

Steaknale, and all the rest of you, thanks for all the encouragement!  Every happy inch I venture deeper into Shire society manages to surpass the last.  You guys are awesome.

Excelsior!

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[quote author=Sovereign Curtis link=topic=4025.msg45027#msg45027 date=1285305521]
I recognize that Avatar.

Whats up buddy?
[/quote]

Oh nothin much, just gonna start pressuring (and teaching) everyone to start encrypting their damn internet traffic lol

[sse]how exactly is this sentence hidden from "suspicious visitors," for example…?[/sse]


Do it. And whats that tag? Are registered users the only ones who can see that sentence?

[quote author=Sovereign Curtis link=topic=4025.msg45088#msg45088 date=1285376226]
Do it. And whats that tag? Are registered users the only ones who can see that sentence?
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the tag is "sse".  the javascript link should be just to the right of the one for quotes.

i just logged out and i could still see it.  so i dunno how useful it could be… any hacker wanna try to find the source for that tag and see what parameters it pulls to determine "suspicious"?