Boycotting Blue Cross Blue Shield

What are other Liberty Loving residents of NH doing for health insurance.
I am currently spending $1500+ per month on my family of 4 and have a $6000 deductible.

I might get through the deductible of BC/BS ever covered anything. They’re full of excuses why the don’t cover this, they don’t cover that.

I am curious what other options people out there are using. Anybody using Medi-Share?

I feel we all need to cripple Anthem BC/BS. They’re con artists and a huge part of the health care problem in the country IMO. Love to hear other people’s thoughts.

A family I knew said they had to leave NH for MA for better healthcare options.

I don’t think Blue Cross Blue Shield are that unusual. The insurance companies are part of a massive fascistic complex. Maybe another reason to leave the US, instead of “boycotting.”

I won’t make enough profit this year to qualify for Obamacare subsidies for 2018. My only option is applying for Medicaid or no coverage at all, because I definitely can’t afford $300 a month out of pocket vs. the $39 I currently pay.

My family hasn’t had health insurance for a few years. I have a family of 10, and it would be $3000 per month, and still have crazy deductables and co-pays.

We don’t have health issues, so it hasn’t really been an issue. Dental insurance is more useful to my family than health insurance.

We pre-pay a doctor, $420 per quarter for the entire family for Direct Primary Care.

What is “Direct Primary Care?

Direct Primary Care (DPC) is a model of practice that is growing in popularity with patients and doctors across the country. It is direct because the patient pays the doctor directly, and the doctor works for the patient directly, without the interference of insurance companies or government bureaucrats. In a DPC practice, the patient (or the patient’s employer) pays a monthly or annual subscription fee to the doctor’s office. In exchange, the doctor provides all services normally offered by a primary care physician at no extra charge (or with minor exceptions that are clearly spelled out). This benefits the patient because their health care costs are predictable, and they do not have to worry about feeling “nickelled and dimed” every time they go in for a visit. Their health care is already paid for. All they might pay is for medications, vaccines, all of which are provided at the doctor’s wholesale cost, with no additional mark-up. It provides unprecedented access to the doctor and staff. Unlike most other doctor’s offices, we are happy to answer simple questions by phone or e-mail, at no additional charge.

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Yeah I try taking really good care of myself to avoid health Insurance. My family been fine for 6 years.

I use alternative health providers as well. Chiropractors know more than doctors in my opinion- and they usually more one on one than a regular doctor.
And if your suffering form illness- a naturopath/ or google has saved me a bunch of times for less than a $100.

With doctors there are MDs and DOs. My pot doctor is a DO.

https://medicalschoolhq.net/md-vs-do-what-are-the-differences-and-similarities/

MD’s practice allopathic medicine, the classical form of medicine, focused on the diagnosis and treatment of human diseases.

DO’s practice osteopathic medicine which is centered around a more holistic view of medicine in which the focus is on seeing the patient as a “whole person” to reach a diagnosis, rather than treating the symptoms alone.

The belief is that all parts of the body work together and influence each other. Osteopathic medicine also places emphasis on the prevention of disease. In medical school, there is specific training on osteopathic manipulative treatment (OMT), a hands-on approach to diagnosis and treatment as well as disease prevention.

There are approximately 800,000 practicing physicians in the United States today; roughly 50,000 of whom are DO’s, while MD’s make up the remaining 750,000. DO’s therefore make up less than 10% of practicing physicians in the USA today.

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What do you get for $39 a month?

The plan is like $290 a month for 2017 for a single 34 year old, minus Federal subsidies because of my income. There is no $39 plan, that’s just what I pay. It’s also not available in NH.

Insurance companies are weird.

Haha, I just checked the new pricing for next year and it’s $485 a month for the same plan. Fuck this corporatist scam job bullshit.

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I spoke with a doctor this weekend that I know is really good, and already opted out of the Insurance Rat Race by creating a firm that’s a Direct Primary Care provider. He’s written a book on how other doctors can create their own DPC firm. Here’s what he suggests will not only save you money, but also eliminate the likes of BC/BS.

Go to www.dpcfrontier.com and hit the mapper button and find a DPC button. Then pick a health sharing ministry to join like Liberty, Christian Healthcare Ministries, Medishare, etc.

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Pure criminality!

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I’m sure it is if you don’t work for a living and your suckin’ on government hind teat already.

Found a pretty good Health Insurance thread at this website… check it out.

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Policy in New Hampshire
Puts Patients At Risk

WASHINGTON — The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and its New Hampshire Chapter today came out against a policy that Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS) plans to implement in the state on January 1st in which emergency patients who have been treated in emergency departments may be responsible for all the costs, if the insurer decides after-the-fact it was not an emergency, based on a list of diagnoses.

“This violates the prudent layperson standard, which is part of Medicare and Medicaid laws, as well as the Affordable Care Act, and requires coverage to be based on a patient’s symptoms rather than a diagnosis,” said Thomas Joseph Lydon, MD, PhD, FACEP and vice-president of New Hampshire’s ACEP Chapter. “This policy is dangerous, because patients who really need emergency care may be too afraid to seek care.”

Dr. Lydon said that one of the diagnoses that would not be covered is “rash.” However, there are serious or potentially fatal conditions, such as Lyme disease or endocarditis from opioid injection, that first can manifest as a simple rash. Ruling out life-threatening conditions requires a careful history and physical exam by a provider familiar with such ailments. Physicians fear the unintended outcome of Anthem’s policy will be to discourage people from seeking medical care in the first place.

“Health insurance companies can’t expect patients to know which symptoms are life-threatening and which ones are not, and they shouldn’t be punished financially because of it,” said Dr. Lydon. “Emergency physicians treat patients every day with identical symptoms – some go home, some need a medical procedure, and some need to be admitted. Only a full medical work-up can determine that.”

For over 20 years, the “prudent layperson” law has been the standard for determining whether evaluation at an emergency department is justified. This standard requires that insurance coverage is based on a patient’s symptoms, not their final diagnosis. Anyone who seeks emergency care suffering from symptoms that appear to be an emergency should not be denied coverage if the final diagnosis does not turn out to be an emergency. The BCBS policy violates this standard. While 12 conditions are being excluded at this time, emergency physicians are concerned that the list has the potential to grow. Anthem BCBS has already implemented this policy in several states including, Missouri, Georgia and Kentucky with a much larger list of conditions. More states are scheduled to be under the Anthem policy by early next year.

According to a recent ACEP poll, more than 4 in 10 Americans reported that they delayed or avoided seeking emergency care in the past 2 years out of concerns about the cost of co-pays, co-insurance and deductibles. Nearly half said their medical condition worsened as a result.

“Over the years, insurance companies have employed multiple strategies to not pay for care,” said Paul Kivela, MD, MBA, FACEP, president of ACEP. “They have denied claims based on final diagnosis instead of symptoms. Emergency physicians successfully fought back against these outrageous policies. Now, as the future of health care is debated again, insurance companies are trying to reintroduce the practice.”

Dr. Kivela added that there is nearly a 90 percent overlap in symptoms between emergencies and non-emergencies, according to a 2013 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

ACEP is the national medical specialty society representing emergency medicine. ACEP is committed to advancing emergency care through continuing education, research and public education. Headquartered in Dallas, Texas, ACEP has 53 chapters representing each state, as well as Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. A Government Services Chapter represents emergency physicians employed by military branches and other government agencies.