I must say, I was a bit put off by your quick deletion of my account, considering I haven't even hit the "two week" mark mentioned in your very own Terms of Agreement/Access/Whatever… even though I had posted.
[quote]…If you choose not to post, your account will be subject to deletion within two weeks.[/quote]
But when you make the rules and unilaterally enforce them, who says you have to stick by them? And while we are on the topic of your ToA, what is up with…
[quote]Advocation of violence and aggression, spam, racism, bigotry, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are forbidden on this forum.[/quote]
Pardon my insolence, but how are we defining "advocacy" [because "advocation" isn't a word with much modern use unless we're speaking Scottish legalese] "violence", and "aggression" here? In what context? Would suggesting that smashing windows is a legitimate form of expressing class-consciousness be viewed as advocacy for "violence"? Would suggesting that workers seize the factories from the bosses who run them fall under "aggression"?
Maybe you folks aren't exposed to much of the normative world, but most of the words you are using here imply concepts which aren't taken as a given by a great deal of "regular" people, myself included.
In any case, on to the real gist of my post:
[quote]Dissent is welcome, but if you are here to troll or only be negative, you'll end up in the troll area.[/quote]
I came to offer some legitimate dissent, but it appears that because I'm dealing with some real authoritarian personalities, I'll have to readjust my criticisms and personalize this just a bit. But before I do that, who decides who is and isn't a troll? Moreover, why is being "negative" or having a "negative" outlook (which appears to be one that doesn't jive with your own, if your treatment of "Tim" is to be any evidence) reason enough to subject one to relegation to the "troll" forum? I'd also like to point out that "negative" is a mindset and completely up to any individuals interpretation, and is hardly a sound criteria by which to stigmatize another (if it sounds familiar, it should; I learned this clever goal-post moving mantra from your nightly chats on the radio, Dale and Ian).
[quote]Look. If you're here to have a conversation and express genuine issues you have with whatever viewpoints, tactics, etc. that's awesome. If you want to come here specifically to USE the resources of Free Keene and the platform for communication here to work counter to the goals of Free Keene, for the life of me, I can't understand why anyone expects that to be accommodated. If that's what you want to do, do it, but do it on your own forum. Spend a lot of your own effort to promote and build up traffic to your site to achieve YOUR goal which runs counter to ours.[/quote]
So let me get this straight: you are OK with people who express dissent, but only so long as they don't express TOO much dissent? Or is it only a specific kind of dissent? I'm getting kind of caught up in your ambiguous language where you state "If you want to come here specifically to USE the resources of Free Keene and the platform for communication here to work counter to the goals of Free Keene, for the life of me, I can't understand why anyone expects that to be accommodated."
It appears that you are suggesting that anyone who uses FreeKeene should only use it so long as they support it 100% and that anyone who takes differing stances should just fuck off. This doesn't strike me as a very open or honest way of creating community, and contradicts the alleged openness of dissent here. I feel as if you are making a bigger deal out of something insignificant: if being free to speak my mind without fear of being branded a "troll" is an "accommodation", I can not help but wonder what other sort of liberties I take for granted you view as an "accommodation" on your part. Clearly, I must be careful with my words, lest I rouse the ire of the FreeKeene Cheka.
[quote]For instance, if what you intend to do is not so much to have a genuine conversation with us but rather hope to intercept anyone who comes here to talk shit about Free Keene, then no, you're not going to be handed the microphone. Go get your own soapbox.[/quote]
So… what I am reading here is that if I came with valid criticisms that would not paint FreeKeene in the most positive of lights, I should still just fuck off. Obviously, only those with the strongest convictions would seek to keep out those who would openly question their dogma. :roll:
[quote]I guess I understand why people opposed to private property would expect this privately-sponsored space to be treated as if it were public property where everyone must be provided access to do whatever they want and it must be subject to the perils of the tragedy of the commons.[/quote]
My word, aren't you a well-learned old man, so clearly brimming with knowledge in the nuances of ownership theory and the commons. Suffice to say, my criticisms would have touched on the nature of property and the commons, but your own demagogic views have put a pair of blinders on you that I can't really help but wonder if my message would have ever gotten through even for scholastic consideration. I would also have touched on the issue of authority manifesting itself in even the most casual of relationships (this particular exchange being a very good example) and how continuing to engage in such roles does nothing to eradicate the most systemic authoritarian relationships, but seeing as how this might very well be my last post before having my account deleted again, I guess I'll just have to leave it at that.
Capuzzo, you've shown a rare moment of clarity in pointing out that those who come here would view you as beneath them; as it would just so happen, I do view unthinking sycophants like you to be beneath me and at the very least an absolute waste of my time. Please take care not to address me in the future, because by the time you have read this, I've blocked you.
In regards to jumping through your hoops, I'm terribly sorry, but I don't have time for juvenile authority games. In time you would have learned who/what I am, I pretty clearly stated why I am here (to offer dissent), and I quite honestly don't feel any pressing obligation to share where I found out about this site.
As I am so fond of saying, "Don't tell me what to do; you are not my boss."
I'd also like to make a responses to something which was said in a thread that spawned about my last post:
[quote]He didn't say he didn't believe in anything, just that he's a troll. Ian (and I assume other mods have) enforced the "no you really have to type words that make you sound like a person" rule on people who didn't blow their troll cover as amateurishly as this profile did. [/quote]
I didn't say I was a troll, actually. I said [paraphrased] "you will not like what I have to say", and that I should be put with the cadre of "trolls", given the treatment of dissent here is pretty harsh. I never once explicitly said I was a troll, or even that I had troll motives. Any belief that I am troll is belief filtered by your own prejudice, and can't possibly be related to any posts I have made for the sheer fact that I stated very little from which much can be extrapolated. If you're open to suggestions, the easiest way you can remedy this confusion in the future would be a lesson in remedial English. I hear they are all the rage at community colleges these days.
You sound like a troll to me. BORING.
That's a really long post, but it still doesn't meet the requirements. Please review this post and try again:
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=1127.0
Your account was wiped along with hundreds of other accounts who all had 0 posts - don't worry, it wasn't specifically targeted against you, whoever you are. Accounts with 0 posts are purged roughly every month or so.
Since you are a listener to FTL or Prometheus Unchained, you should call in. That's a great place for dissenters to be heard on a much wider basis than this piddly internet forum. I'd love to talk to you about some of the issues you have brought up. Feel free to call in to 855-450-FREE any night between 7-10pm Eastern- better towards 7pm, though if you really want the most people to hear your ideas, try the 9pm hour.
P.S. A dictionary may help you with some of the issues you presented in your post. Here's a helpful link: http://dictionary.com
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[quote]Look. If you're here to have a conversation and express genuine issues you have with whatever viewpoints, tactics, etc. that's awesome. If you want to come here specifically to USE the resources of Free Keene and the platform for communication here to work counter to the goals of Free Keene, for the life of me, I can't understand why anyone expects that to be accommodated. If that's what you want to do, do it, but do it on your own forum. Spend a lot of your own effort to promote and build up traffic to your site to achieve YOUR goal which runs counter to ours.[/quote]
So let me get this straight: you are OK with people who express dissent, but only so long as they don't express TOO much dissent? Or is it only a specific kind of dissent? I'm getting kind of caught up in your ambiguous language where you state "If you want to come here specifically to USE the resources of Free Keene and the platform for communication here to work counter to the goals of Free Keene, for the life of me, I can't understand why anyone expects that to be accommodated."
It appears that you are suggesting that anyone who uses FreeKeene should only use it so long as they support it 100% and that anyone who takes differing stances should just fuck off. This doesn't strike me as a very open or honest way of creating community, and contradicts the alleged openness of dissent here. I feel as if you are making a bigger deal out of something insignificant: if being free to speak my mind without fear of being branded a "troll" is an "accommodation", I can not help but wonder what other sort of liberties I take for granted you view as an "accommodation" on your part. Clearly, I must be careful with my words, lest I rouse the ire of the FreeKeene Cheka.[/quote]
:roll:
Careful, I feel some ire coming on.
Tim hasn't said anything new here in months. Just the same old stuph inserted repeteadly all over the place as to be a distraction right along with big flashing signatures. Let's not pretend that's more meaningful than it is.