Thate is probably closer to the truth. People feel lost when there isn’t a direction that they are told to go or know where to go. As it is, people now look for groups to identify with.
Also, I know a bit about real history, not the stuff taught in a classroom. I’m too old to believe in that crap and tend to read a lot and watch way too many documentaries.
That doesn’t require a government. I’m told that back in the day there was a society that had support structures and guided people. Whether that’s the case or not, I see no reason why we can’t have a cohesive society that offers guidance without enforcing that guidance with force.
And maybe if we™ quit domesticating people with welfare and public school we’d get a more independent type of population in the first place.
I have to agree with welfare and public school. I removed both my kids from public school and put them into private ones that actually taught critical thinking and history was real history, not the stuff in the normal history books.
I think welfare should be this:
You are unable to find a job or don’t have a skill that is needed. No problem. You now work FOR welfare until you can find a job. If you are still unable to find a job after X amount of time, you now do things that are needed around the community that others won’t do like clean, basic repairs, etc…
A support structure might do the trick. In most developed countries, people feel too comfortable. In the US it’s all going sideways but no one, outside of a very small percentage, does anything about it as long as they can go home to their 60" tv and leased car.
The thing is you’re trying to view the problem from the perspective of an above-average intelligent person.
Fact: 16% of the population has an IQ of 85 or below. That means they can only be trained to do menial manual labor tasks, even the military will reject you if you have this low of an intelligence score. This statistic can be improved with better early childhood education…but we’re still talking about around 10% of the population even if that effort was put in by parents and teachers.
In an increasingly technologically automated society, there’s only so many “ditch digging”-level jobs you can dole out. You can’t solve the welfare problem by forcing people to do jobs that don’t exist anymore, in fact this is why many are on welfare to begin with: a machine can do those jobs now for a lot less. The problem is only going to get worse over time…especially with medical, food, vehicle, insurance, and housing costs rising. You really do need an absurd amount of money every month to just have a roof over your head and commute to a job in the first world today.
The statistics can be improved to less than 10% with eugenics.
The Israeli military has a “special in uniform” unit.
But yeah, we are fucked.
I think welfare should be Darwinism, but that could be an improvement. Even with private charity, perpetually enabling people who consume more than they produce to reproduce is problematic. But in no case should it be fun to be on welfare.
I’m not into politics, and I get the gist that you’re not, but was watching this and thought of you. 
John is so cute. Really nice interview wasn’t boring at all. I thought it was neat that he realized he was libertarian by being a hardcore judgmental leftist who is against “capitalisim” That’s why I always differintiate between capitalism and corporatism when speaking. A guy did that to me and I was so enlightened by that word lol
@wtfk who are you thinking of when you posted this?
You, babe.
Totally agree on “capitalism.” The word is trouble. I kinda like “cronyism” vs “free markets.”
When your only neighbors are the people hacking away at the forest or fishing next to you, aren’t you sort of forced into socialism to some extent?
Every town should have a municipal electric. Every community should be energy independent.
All the wires should be put into the ground. If the lights go out for 30 days, Samm in Manchester is going to be screwed.
Food, Clothing, Shelter, Energy. We all live on energy these days. We’re all out of business without it.
The lowest electric rates in Maine are in Madison, (a community owned cooperative). The lowest rate in NH is in Wolfeboro… Once again a community owned entity.
With all the priority I place on Independence what in the world makes you think I reside in Manchvegas ?
The last place you’ll find me. Read my posts.
You sound like you’ll be out of business when the lights go out. I will be dancing a jig…and I’m not even Irish !
Samm’s electric rates off grid are zero $. No generator either. This is an individual,not community effort. I can perform the following in a worst-case scenario without any money or a chainsaw. Here’s a cost breakdown with minimal $ and a chainsaw for a northern winter at my place:
For an entire winter,for example, using a chainsaw and (1) 18$ chain, (2) gallons of gas 6$, (1) bottle of premix 2$, (1) jug of B&C oil (9$), I can harvest 4 cords of firewood to heat my camp,heat my water,cook my food,dry my clothes, dry my herbs & mushrooms,make maple syrup and help fulfill my needs for accomplishing real goals. I can also get all the lighting I need for that winter from K1 kerosene (lanterns). Around $50. Add a bit to recharge headlamp batts. off of a 2 batt. solar array.
WORST CASE: Bow saws,buck saws, same mauls & axes. Zero dollars. (just more sweat)
I recommend trying to live this way if you get the chance. It is very fulfilling.
Samm (never in Manch)
With respect for this topic:
Some people/things/events that have helped me: My natural desire to be un-restrained. Certain Viet-Nam vets. Larken Rose. The lifestyle that I pride (self-sufficiency). The prophetic book 1984. Witnessing evil manifest itself through the means of control on humans (and nature) brought to us by modern technology. Reading “Industrial Society and it’s Future” along with Ted Kaczynski’s other books really hit it home with me that it is technology that is destroying our Liberties.
I feel that once you find Truth/Anarchism there is no turning back. I’m ok with that.
I’d have to say that killing your TV is one way to see the Truth quicker. I did this 4 years ago. It comes on maybe once a month or so for a movie like “Terminator” or “They Live”.
Reading Larken’s “The Iron Web” and “The Most Dangerous Superstition” may help to open your eyes as well.
Samm