Author Topic: NewHampshire.com series about the FSP  (Read 1007 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline IfIEverDidSeeOne

  • Live Free Or Die supporter
  • Experienced Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1834
  • Karma: 9
  • love thy neighbor
    • View Profile
NewHampshire.com series about the FSP
« on: December 13, 2012, 10:30:48 PM »
Here is the 1st part of the series. 2nd part is due next week.

December 13. 2012 11:10AM
Free State Project participants have 101 reasons to move to N.H.
By Henry Metz and Dan Moberger
http://www.newhampshire.com/article/20121213/NEWHAMPSHIRE14/121219621/-1/newhampshire14

It is a long article. Here is my favorite part.

Quote
State Rep. Mark Warden is one of those people. A citizen of the Granite State since 2007, Warden recently won election to a second term in the state Legislature, where he represents Goffstown, Weare and Deering.

“I moved here from Las Vegas, Nev.,” said Warden, a real estate agent. “I was single – I still am – and so it was fairly easy for me to just pick up and leave. I was involved in new home construction in Nevada, and I was getting more and more interested in becoming an activist. Overall, I love it here. The winters are cold, but the scenery is beautiful.”

Warden, like many other Free State participants, found that the scenery wasn’t the only thing that attracted him to New Hampshire. He left Nevada for many reasons, not the least of which was New Hampshire’s tax policies – specifically, the lack of an income and sales tax, as well as no capital gains tax.

Freedom from taxes is included in a list of 101 reasons why Free Staters should move to New Hampshire, according to the organization’s website.

In fact, taxes – or a lack of them – figure heavily in what the Free State Project considers the leading virtues of the Granite State. New Hampshire has no inventory tax, the list points out, nor does it have a tax on “machinery or equipment.”
Excellent advice for those considering moving to the Keene area
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=5480.0

Offline IfIEverDidSeeOne

  • Live Free Or Die supporter
  • Experienced Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1834
  • Karma: 9
  • love thy neighbor
    • View Profile
Re: NewHampshire.com series about the FSP
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 03:33:47 AM »
This is article 2 of 3.


December 20. 2012 10:41AM
Free State movement not embraced by all Granite Staters
By Henry Metz, hmetz@yourneighborhoodnews.com
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20121220/NEWHAMPSHIRE14/121229936

It was designed to be a critical article so it isn't positive. Here is the 2nd half of it. Click on the link for the 1st half of the article.

Legislation

Among the characteristics that Free Staters admire about the Granite State is its relatively unrestrictive gun laws.

State Rep. Warden, in previous legislative sessions, sponsored bills that would lessen the restrictions on gun laws.

Specifically, Warden voted in favor of HB210, otherwise known as the “Stand Your Ground” bill which eliminates a person’s duty to retreat when they perceive a threat or are threatened in a public setting, such as a shopping mall. Under previous state law, a person had no legal duty to retreat when threatened in their home, but HB210 expands that to apply to public spaces. Warden was in favor of HB 334, which would have allowed guns on college campuses and dormitories, as well as sports venues, state parks and beaches.

In addition, Warden voted in favor of eliminating licensing requirements to carry firearms “whether openly or concealed.”

Such legislation is at the core of the Free State movement, which aims to place the burdens of accountability and responsibility on the individual. And that can best be accomplished, according to libertarian principles, by reducing or eliminating regulation – both in the areas of business and personal behavior – and by reducing or eliminating local, state and federal taxes, which Free Staters see as little more than a form of indentured servitude to the government.

Survival of the fittest

Still, those critical of the Free State Project see the movement in a much less favorable light than what Free Staters themselves would describe.

“I’ve spoken to several Free Staters who’ve moved here, in part, because they see economic and social disaster ahead for the U.S. – so it will be survival of the fittest played out in New Hampshire,” said Parmele. “Their goal is to shrink government down to essentially nothing, including removing safety nets of all kinds, leaving us all to fend for ourselves. This is completely impractical in this complicated world, as well as cruel. The idea of the common good, beyond themselves and their own community, is largely irrelevant to them. To me, they are naive and narcissistic in their quest for liberty. It’s really disturbing to think about what 20,000 of them – assuming they are all serious about coming here – could do to New Hampshire.”

In what may seem like an odd bit of irony for some, most Free Staters who run for public office in New Hampshire run on the Republican ticket. And that is something that irritates Soltani.

In a recent post on his Facebook page, he said Free Staters give traditional New Hampshire Republicans a bad name.

“I am a real Republican,” Soltani wrote. “I have never been the libertarian or anything else for that matter.”

In the post, Soltani is critical of House leadership and its so-called “gang of Free Staters” who he accuses of “trampling civility” during official House business and for whom the rules of the House “were optional” and the state Constitution was “a mere suggestion.”
Excellent advice for those considering moving to the Keene area
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=5480.0

Offline Walt

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
  • Karma: 0
    • View Profile
Re: NewHampshire.com series about the FSP
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 11:34:33 AM »
Apathy towards liberty in our society is understandable, but outright hostility?  In NH?  Over the past couple of days I’ve learned from reading this sight that on two separate occasions the very concept of liberty was scoffed at and derided by a NH state rep as well as a county planning commission member.   

One proposed to restrict liberty in NH as a means to deter liberty minded folk from living here.  The other thinks that it’s narcissistic and naïve to believe in liberty!

These women are openly opposed to liberty.  In the Live Free or Die state. 

And what a bunch of scare mongering, telling people that liberty will destroy their safety nets and leave them to fend for themselves.  As if the concept of charity was invented by the modern state.  Voluntary charity born of compassion creates a better safety net than any coercive bureaucratic state institution ever could.     

Offline IfIEverDidSeeOne

  • Live Free Or Die supporter
  • Experienced Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1834
  • Karma: 9
  • love thy neighbor
    • View Profile
Re: NewHampshire.com series about the FSP
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 12:41:46 AM »
There is part of part 3. Click the link to see the rest.

December 27. 2012 2:17PM
What's next for the Free State movement?
By Henry Metz and Dan Moberger
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20121227/newhampshire14/121229313/0/NEWHAMPSHIRE05

An informal poll of area legislators taken by The Goffstown News may yield some insight into the Free State Project’s current visibility.

Quote
When asked to comment on the Free State Project and its goal of getting 20,000 libertarian-minded people to move to New Hampshire, here’s what the lawmakers said:

• Rep. David Hess from Hooksett said he wasn’t aware of any Free Staters from Hooksett and hasn’t given the movement much thought. “Like any group, it’s composed of some great people and some not so great people,” he said. “I think they tend to exaggerate their influence.”

• Bedford Rep. John Graham said, “I understand the background of it,” adding “it doesn’t seem like they stand out.”

• Bedford Rep. John Cebrowski said he’d never heard of the Free State Project, but considers Rep. Mark Warden a libertarian-leaning legislator and “a good guy.”

• Salem Rep. Marilinda Garcia said, “I have heard about it and I know some members of the Legislature are (Free State participants), but other than that I don’t know too much about it.”

• Hooksett Rep. Todd Smith said he didn’t know enough about the Free State Project to comment about it.


Quote
Free State Project President Carla Gericke, who describes herself as a “recovering lawyer,” moved to New Hampshire with her husband from Manhattan in 2008, during a blizzard.

“We are originally from South Africa – I won a green card in the diversity lottery while I was in law school – and we landed in the San Francisco Bay Area in the mid-nineties,” she said. “We both ended up working in the tech sector and were hit hard when the Internet bubble burst in 2000-01.”
When asked to comment on the charge that Free Staters are simply trying to take over the state’s political apparatus, Gericke said that’s simply incorrect.

“I love this question,” Gericke said. “First, I think we should establish where the criticism is coming from. If it is from folks who benefit from the largesse of government, I would caution others to take it with a pinch of salt. Secondly, 20,000 people cannot ‘take over’ a state with a population of more than a million. Even when the move is triggered (when the 20,000 pledge signers are expected to come), FSP participants will make up less than 1.5 percent of the entire population. Third, did you know that two-thirds of the 2010-12 legislators were not New Hampshire natives? That Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen aren’t from here originally? Are they trying to ‘take over’? Lastly, the FSP itself is not a political action organization, it’s not tied to any political party, and we do not run candidates for election. What individual participants do once they get here is up to them.”
Excellent advice for those considering moving to the Keene area
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=5480.0