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Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« on: January 22, 2012, 05:01:20 AM »
People in the "negative reputation" user group will not be able to issue reputation points to anyone.

In addition, there is now a higher threshold of posts that one must cross in order to be able to issue reputation.

Mods have full discretion with assigning the "negative reputation" classification.
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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 05:14:42 AM »
Shouldnt you have reset the numbers before you started this? It condems me and nobody else.How convenient.. But i guess if it stops Maine Shark from whining its fine.

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 05:22:30 AM »
In addition, there is now a higher threshold of posts that one must cross in order to be able to issue reputation.

...and that number is?

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 05:25:17 AM »
Shouldnt you have reset the numbers before you started this? It condems me and nobody else.How convenient.. But i guess if it stops Maine Shark from whining its fine.

I appreciate you looking on the bright side.  +1
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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 05:30:48 AM »
Shouldnt you have reset the numbers before you started this?
I appreciate you looking on the bright side.  +1

This seems like you're trolling by replying like that and not even addressing his question.   -1

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 05:38:42 AM »
There is no easy way to do that.  It will take the modification of the forum DB.  Things should even out over time, and people with negative karma can change how they approach this forum and will likely raise their ranking.
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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 06:08:38 AM »
I, being proactive some of the time, tried to look for an answer to my prior question elsewhere on the boards - thinking perhaps there were other places this was posted. 

To my pleasant surprise, I did find another place this info was mentioned.  Great job thoroughly updating the forum's 'read me' with these new changes; sadly, the post didn't answer my question about the 'threshold of posts' I must cross before I can again "appreciate" or "ostracize" another user.

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 06:47:03 AM »
Oh look, both trolls complaining. How cute.

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 06:53:43 AM »
How is Butt Genie a troll? Oh wait, he isnt. But you sure as hell proved that YOU are. Stop causing trouble.

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 09:11:26 AM »
There is no easy way to do that.  It will take the modification of the forum DB.  Things should even out over time, and people with negative karma can change how they approach this forum and will likely raise their ranking.

Ideally, you'd only be able to "vote" once per post, in addition to the once/day rule.  So, for example, someone who only has one post, could get (at most) one negative point per user who visits that post - after they've each voted on that post, they cannot add additional karma for the same posting.  After all, if someone only says something once, they should only get rated for that statement once.

Of course, as far as I'm aware, that's not available in the forum software, but it would be a cool feature if it ever becomes available.

Edit: it would also be cool if there were a way to set it to add a karma point per week, as long as there are X number of posts that week (up to zero, though, not something someone can gain positive karma by), so that those who get negative karma but then stay around without additionally offending anyone, get back to neutral eventually.  Sort of an electronic version of "forgive and forget."  Not giving someone positive points that would imply they are trusted, but sort of like, "yeah, that guy used to be a jerk, but he's mellowed out over time, so I don't mind having him around, now."  Even with that sort of system, someone who keeps posting nonsense is going to gain negative points far faster than the one/week positive point the system would add.

Again, not aware of anything that can offer that, at present.  But, eventually, I hope that the karma systems receive some helpful programming attention by those with the skill and interest.
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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 01:49:13 PM »
Shouldnt you have reset the numbers before you started this? It condems me and nobody else.How convenient.. But i guess if it stops Maine Shark from whining its fine.

So on the FK home site do you post as Matt enslave or KoKsucker?


Hmm better give Maineshark some positive so he doesn't get stuck with you.

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 03:00:03 PM »
Im serioussplinters on that site and the 2 others that banned me. Those guys are funny though. Please dont be a dope. :)

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 12:49:22 AM »
Oh look, both trolls complaining. How cute.

I'm sorry I haven't won you over yet with my winning personality.   ;)

As for my unanswered request for information about the changes to the community - I'm tempted to go visit the 'dissenter' forum and relentlessly post until I break the upper echelon and regain the functionality; I believe this information would be a service to the shire community.   Again, this isn't desirable, but if I can't get the information any other way...

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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 02:07:56 AM »
That doesn't sound very community oriented and could be considered flooding.  Perhaps you should just be patient. 
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Re: Announcing the "negative reputation" usergroup.
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 03:26:31 AM »
I'm sure you didn't think people wouldn't have questions about how you'll be modifying their accounts...

Perhaps I'm assuming too much and you're just the spokesman of this forum.   If that were the truth, it would stand to reason that you may truly not know what the range is.  If this is the case, I have no problem with being patient.  Though, in that scenario my 'post bomb' proposal would be beneficial in informing you as well as the whole community; so I don't know why you would be against it knowing my stated my intentions...

Now if you did have the information and you're withholding it in some manner, after I, a member of the community, has asked for it very cordially - twice - well, I would have to say that doesn't sound very community oriented either.

I as a free man I believe I am acting rationally to obtain my goal of information.  While it may not sound very community oriented to someone the new rules do not effect, it may quickly become a community issue as new inquisitive members join this fledgling forum.  To me, there is an obvious future benefit to the community through my proposal of activism.

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