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NH Drivers License
« on: May 18, 2010, 03:35:35 PM »
What does one need to transfer an out of state drivers license to NH?

I understand I need my current out of state drivers license, and a second proof of ID (Passport, Birth Certificate, Socialist Slave Card, whatever)  and a "Proof of Residency".

However, I've heard too many conflicting reports to what types of "proof of residency" satisfy the bureaucrats.  There are even conflicting answers on the DMV's own website.  I've been told, I only need a notarized letter from the person to whom I pay rent (In my case, my roommate whom holds the lease).  I've heard that's not enough, and that I need a notarized letter from the actual landlord whom owns the property.  Then I've heard that's not enough, and I need to go to city hall with the landlord to get a "Town/City Clerk Approval of Residency Letter". 

I am confused, how much "proof of residency" do I need for the DMV bureaucrats?

To make everything more complicated, I have no written "lease agreement", I just pay my rent and equal split of utilities on time. All utilities are in my roommates name.

Also, I heard I must surrender my current out of state drivers license, and I would have to wait a couple weeks to get my new one.  What if I need a photo ID within that time?  Does the piece of paper they print on a laser printer work for most purposes? (This makes MA look like a model of efficiency, you would get your new drivers license in a week)

Also, regarding vehicle registration, the DMV's site says Massachusetts does not recognize temporary plates.  But I've seen people driving around with temporary plates for several weeks because the DMV is so slow with getting plates, If I register my automobile in NH, what am I supposed to do if I have to drive to Massachusetts? is there a way to get plates in NH faster?

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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 04:05:12 PM »
I think I signed an affidavit b/c my apartment paid all utilities.
Don't really remember though.

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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 04:11:01 PM »
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/driverlic/faq.html

That should more than answer all of your questions.

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Then I've heard that's not enough, and I need to go to city hall with the landlord to get a "Town/City Clerk Approval of Residency Letter".


That is certainly not true.

I was given my plates when I registered my car in NH.  Unless you get custom plates, the same will likely happen for you.
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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 04:33:48 PM »
if you get a letter signed by the landlord, it must be notorized.
if you work in nh, you can use a paystub.
do not bring in more than one address proof with different addresses.
bring your ssn card in case, but they don't really use that.
They mail the license to you, make sure the address you use can receive mail.
If you use a private box for your place of residency (not mailing address, but legal address), make sure the bureaucrat you are giving your information to is not familiar with the area, or that you are getting it in a town outside of where the box is.

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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 01:42:38 AM »
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/driverlic/faq.html

That should more than answer all of your questions.


No, I asked the forum because that site just generates more questions because there's conflicting information on it.

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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 09:09:56 AM »
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/driverlic/faq.html

That should more than answer all of your questions.


No, I asked the forum because that site just generates more questions because there's conflicting information on it.

Basically, if your current license is valid you go to the DMV and surrender it to the bureaucrat and also have proof of residency. According to the DMV's Required Doc pdf, the following are combination of documents that the State requires:

REQUIRED DRIVER LICENSE DOCUMENTATION for United States Citizens
• One (1) “Primary” document, one (1) “Secondary” document and one (1) “Residency” document
OR  
• Two (2) “Primary” documents and one (1) “Residency” document

Primary DocumentsSecondary DocumentsResidency
• An original or certified copy of his/her birth certificate (this would include US Citizens born abroad or a US Department of State issued birth certificate)
• A valid Passport
• A valid Military ID or other photo
identification issued by the US Government Military dependent ID
• A valid photo/digital image driver license from another state
Note:  For someone transferring from another state, your out-of-state Driver License must be relinquished.  
• A photo/digital image driver license that has not been expired for more than 1 year
• A non-driver ID issued by the State of NH that has not been expired for more than 1 year
• A current employee ID issued by the State of NH  
• A Marriage Certificate or a Civil Union Certificate
• A Divorce Decree (ONLY the section that allows a person to go back to his/her former name)  
• Social Security card issued by the Social Security Administration (SSA) or a Letter of Verification from the SSA
• Current student photo/digital image ID card  
• Military discharge papers/separation papers (for example:  DD214)
• Valid NH Certificate of Title  
• A title application prepared by a Town or City Clerk or Tax Collector that is not marked “Non Resident”
• Valid NH Registration Certificate
• Lease or rental agreement (properly signed by both parties)
• A notarized letter from a landlord at the address  provided *
• A mortgage statement at the address provided
• Any current utility bill with service at address provided *
      Gas (natural or propane)
      Electric
      Oil
      Water/Sewer
      Cable/Dish Service
      Telephone (for fixed service only)
• Property Tax (real estate) bill at address provided
• A government check or a government document issued by an official in the municipality of residence *
• A payroll check, payroll document, or employment contract *
• Direct verification by a parent or guardian.
* Document cannot be older than 60 days.

Which means if you present your out of state license and a birth certificate / passport / military ID then you just have to present one form of residency documentation (cable service, payroll check, etc). Otherwise you have to present your out of state license and one of the secondary documents (Student ID card, military discharge, Social Security card or verification letter) and one of the residency documents.

My suggestion is to have as much as you need with you that you want to bring and put it in a folder. Then go in and have the folder and pull out the minimum required, then mention to the clerk that you brought extras just in case  ;) Likely things will run smoother. I have heard that each DMV runs differently as to how you are treated, but generally are on top of what documents are required and what meets the requirements. Once you change one document (ie license or registration) its very easy to change the other, unless you do both at the same time.

I have never gone through the out-of-state process, but what I have observed that trips people up is they:
  • don't have physical possession their out of state license
(you have to surrender it because by NH law you can't have more than one driver's license)
  • dont have the other primary document or a secondary document and/or the required residency document
  • have issues with their out of state license (ie suspension) that would cause NH to not issue a license
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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 06:29:20 PM »
What are the odds of driving a lot in Keene without any drivers license and not getting thrown in jail?

Would an "International" drivers license work for very long?  I got stopped by the pirates 3 times in Nashua during the 2009 liberty forum, and I used my German drivers license and international license each time, and never even got a ticket.  But I had a rental car with SC tags.

What if I never owned any property in my name, and didn't hold a bankaccount, would I be able to use my German drivers license if I got stopped?  I wouldn't actually 'live' there.

Would I be able to buy a car without having to register it in my name?  Or, register it without having to have a US drivers license?  I'll never be able to get a US drivers license, and that is one of the many reasons I am in no hurry to move.

Could it be done, or would I be spending a lot of time in jail?  Or a lot of time walking. 

Do you need a drivers license in Murka to ride a horse (you do in Germany).
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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 07:12:37 PM »
What are the odds of driving a lot in Keene without any drivers license and not getting thrown in jail?

Very good if you have never hard a DL and someone with a DL is in the car with you.  Otherwise, I wouldn't advice it. 

However, I think a bike may be nearly as good as a car for getting around Keene, except in the winter time.
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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 05:28:20 PM »
Really?  If a licensed driver is in the car, the cops won't lock you up?   Wow, things have definately changed since I left 34 years ago, back then those pricks would lock you up and handcuff you if you even thought about driving without a license.   They used to take that stuff seriously, I'm glad things have changed.

I'm glad to hear that, as I could NEVER get a US license again.  maybe I'll move sooner.   So I just need to take someone with me who has a license and all is OK?

Cool.

I wouldn't think about a bike, it takes too long to get anywhere, and I couldn't carry anything with me, and my dog wouldn't know where to sit.

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Re: NH Drivers License
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 06:04:01 PM »
Really?  If a licensed driver is in the car, the cops won't lock you up?   Wow, things have definately changed since I left 34 years ago, back then those pricks would lock you up and handcuff you if you even thought about driving without a license.   They used to take that stuff seriously, I'm glad things have changed.

I'm glad to hear that, as I could NEVER get a US license again.  maybe I'll move sooner.   So I just need to take someone with me who has a license and all is OK?

Cool.

I wouldn't think about a bike, it takes too long to get anywhere, and I couldn't carry anything with me, and my dog wouldn't know where to sit.

Love and Understanding is speaking about the "learners" laws. Meaning if you're over age 15.5 and there is a licensed driver with you, conscious, in the passenger seat, over the age of 25, you are technically legally driving. Now this doesn't fly if your license is suspended or revoked.

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 263:25 Exception for Persons Learning to Drive. –
    I. Except as provided in paragraph II, a person who does not possess a driver's license may drive a motor vehicle while being taught to drive, when accompanied by a person holding a driver's license of the appropriate class and type for the vehicle being driven, who is occupying the seat beside, or, in the case of a bus, immediately adjacent to, the person who is being taught to drive. This exception shall not apply to persons whose driving privileges or driver's licenses have been suspended or revoked for cause, persons less than 15- 1/2 years of age, and persons learning to drive commercial motor vehicles unless they meet the requirements of paragraph II. For all unlicensed drivers the person accompanying them shall be a certified driving instructor, parent, legal guardian, or responsible adult who is 25 years of age or older and who is a licensed driver. The person accompanying the unlicensed driver shall be liable for the violation of any provision of this title or rules adopted hereunder committed by such unlicensed driver. A person who is learning to drive pursuant to the provisions of this section shall have in his possession proof of the fact he meets the age requirement.


But if you are driving illegally, you'd obviously have to be pulled over for them to find out. I've never been pulled over by KPD while driving.

Also, bikes are very useful in Keene. It doesn't take too long to get anywhere, and it's fun and good exercise.
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